Carl Froch Interview: I’ll Fight Darren Till If The Money Is Right!

Speaking exclusively to Football Blog, British boxing legend Carl Froch said if the money is right, he’d consider fighting ‘gobsh*te’ Darren Till. He also weighed in on Chris Eubank Jr and Conor Benn’s press conference, firing shots at Eddie Hearn. 

Football Blog: Did you have a good time out in Vegas?

Carl Froch: Yeah, it was all right. I enjoyed it, the build up to the fight. It’s like a ghost town during the week, and then all of a sudden Thursday, Friday, Friday night’s packed. The casinos are absolutely heaving. So the atmosphere picks up a little bit, but to be honest, unless you’re doing something specific, like we were doing a boxing show, Vegas is a bit of a lonely place. A bit boring. Just food machines and casinos everywhere. Unless something’s happening, it’s not that good. I probably had too long there, so I was a bit bored, but then when the fight came around, it was good. The fight was done and dusted, which was a brilliant fight. It was one for the purists. Not one for the non boxing fan that can’t really appreciate the quality of what, what both fighters were doing, especially Crawford. And then after the fight flew back Sunday. So as soon as the fight was over, I was done the next day. I’m glad I went. It was good. I got to interview a few people and see a few fans spend a bit of time with the fans, but yeah, the fight was fantastic.

I did predict Crawford. I had to get it right. I don’t know. Canelo’s just passed his best, isn’t he? But Crawford was exceptional. Crawford’s an older man. Less miles on the clock, less fights. But I didn’t expect him to dominate like he did. It wasn’t a whooping. I mean, I said it was a whooping. It wasn’t. Just the way in which he performed and the manner in which he went to that business and, and barely got hit. There wasn’t a mark on him. I didn’t expect him to not get into a fight for at least three or four rounds just a walk in the park.

He was able to just evade Canelo and just nullify him and shut him out. And there were times mid, I think it was towards late, maybe 9, 10, 8, there were a couple of rounds where Canelo thought to himself, right, I need to go for it now. I’m losing. His corner man must have been saying, listen, he’s behind on points, step on the gas, go for him. And when he did, it just got worse for him. Crawford was able to stay with him. Block shots, counter, punch, mix it with him in close, then get back behind the jab and move. The movement was exceptional. If people say, what did Crawford do so well?  Why did he win so easily? It’s just his movement, footwork, hand-eye coordination, block, block, counter, back on his bike.

He never stood still and stayed there and even when he did on the odd occasion, found himself on the robes. He was able to just block, counter, get back into the center of the ring. I’d implore any kid coming through that that wants to box and be a professional boxer or be a top amateur to have a look at what Crawford did and how little he got hit against the top level fight like Canelo. I said Canelo’s passed his best, don’t wanna take anything away from Crawford. But to come up two or three weight divisions and dominate in the way in which he did, he deserves a lot of praise for that fight.

Q: Can we have a quick word on Ricky Hatton. Do you have any memories or anything you’d like to share? 

Carl Froch: I mean, unbelievable, unbelievably sad news. Such a shame. I don’t know the full circumstances  or the details, but I’m hearing he’s taken his own life. All I’ve heard is heart attack and I’m hearing that he’s actually committed suicide, but I don’t know what the full details are. So I wouldn’t want to comment on any of that. That’s all I’ve heard.

I did my postfight reaction that got put out on Sunday and all the first comments were rest in peace Ricky Hatton, I thought, what’s this all about? What’s going off here? So straightaway Chat GPT and then it comes up with all the articles. I could not believe it. So sad. I was upset. ’cause I know Ricky quite well. I’ve been with him a few times. I’ve watched him fight a couple of times. I watched when he came back from Vegas after he lost to Mayweather and he lost to Pacquiao. 

That Pacquiao defeat didn’t sit well with him. I think he wished he never took that fight. It’s alright in hindsight saying that, but he dared to be great. He got knocked out quite badly and I think that affected him. But I went to see him coming back after that in Manchester. And I’ve met him at a couple of meet and greet events where we’re signing gloves and then we’re doing little guest speeches and he’s always funny.

He’s always cracking jokes. He’s a big fan of Only Fools And Horses. He’s always had some great one-liners. I remember interviewing him on my channel. It might have been eight weeks ago, maybe 10 weeks ago. And I said, who are three fighters or three people you want by your side if you get into a bar room brawl? And his first one was ‘my ex-wife’. That was his first pick. And it just really tickled me. I remember just thinking, only Ricky Hatton would say that. We had a laugh. But in terms of boxing icons and boxing legends, he’s up there because of what he did for the sport.

He had a great career beating Kostya Tszyu for the world title was his moment. The amount of traveling fans he had, and the fact that he was a Man City fan and he had all the crowds. I mean, nobody ever traveled to Vegas in crowds. 

Q: Do you think there could be anyone else that has that?

Carl Froch: No. I don’t think there will be, because Ricky Hatton was the people’s champion. He used to go around the pubs, used to have his full English breakfast after his weigh-in, or on the day of the fight. He’d blow in between fights. He’d go really big and fat.

Then he’d lose all his weight. He’s just a people’s champ. Such a charismatic young man. I mean, he is a couple of years younger than me. And he’s just the people’s champ. Who else did that? I mean, Frank Bruno. Everyone loved Frank Bruno. But you can’t name another two or three fighters who’s done what he’s done, and his contribution to boxing and what he did for the sport. No one will ever match that. Fantastic. It’s such a shame. Very sad. Thoughts and prayers have gone out to the family. He’s got a young lad Campbell as well. Yeah, he’s got a grandkid as well.

Condolences to the family. Such a shame. So unexpected. But what can we say? It’s so sad and such a shame and um, yeah. It’s difficult to understand what’s going through people’s minds. We don’t know the full details of it, but thoughts and prayers with the family. 

Q: Back to the weekend’s fight, did you ever have it in your mind that Canelo might have done enough or was it always with Bud?

Carl Froch: I knew he’d won it. He knew that. I’d already sort of gone out and said he’s won that. And I couldn’t believe it was 1 15 and 1 13. Because it was never that close. That’s a one round swing for a draw. But it just shows you that they were leaning towards Canelo, but there’s no way they could have taken that off Crawford. It was too much of a one-sided performance. Just technically such a masterclass. And he was able to not get hit by shots. If you can’t get hit, you don’t lose the round, do you? And Crawford wasn’t getting hit. He got caught with the odd shot. Once Canelo stepped on it and pushed forward, he was getting through with the odd shot.

Every time he landed a couple of digs, Crawford answered back. Crawford literally just dominated for me. It looked easy for him. So now he made that look easy. I know Canelo’s past his best, just slightly past his best. He’s seen better days, he’s a lot of miles on the clock. 67 fights.

Q: Do you think he would call it a day? 

Carl Froch: I don’t know. I think he had a four or five fight deal with Turki Al-Sheikh with the Saudis. So he’s still got a few more. So maybe he’s got one or two left. So who knows.

Q: What about Crawford? 

Carl Froch: The way in which he performed. And how easy he made it look, and he doesn’t take any punishment. If he wants to fight till he’s 40, let him fight till he’s 40. He’s 38 years old, he could have another couple of fights. He’s got Saudi money backing in his fights. So why not cash in? Or cash out, depending on who’s next. But there aren’t many for him to fight. He’s not gonna go up to light heavyweight. There’s no one sitting super middleweight that’s gonna give him a champion.

Benavidez is up at light heavyweight now. So who does he fight at Super-middle? The only fight really for him at the minute is a rematch. You’ve got Boots Ennis there as well that’s hanging around, but there’s no one really where you’d say, yeah, that’s a good fight, that’s a big fight. There’s no real names that get the television interested. So maybe a rematch, but I think that’s a pointless fight. 

Q: Same result if there was a re-match?

Carl Froch: I think so. I dunno what Canelo can do differently. And it was just not good enough. He was technically too proficient Crawford. Just too good. Blocking, counter punching moving away from the right hand. Blocking, counter slipping, rolling, dominating the center of the ring. Even on his back foot under pressure, he was able to counter punch on his back foot. He looked like he could have done it for 20 rounds. What a talent He is. I’m envious of how talented he is and how easy he makes it long because I used to have to get in there and fight and take punches. He doesn’t get hit does he?

Q: Ring Magazine now he is officially the pound for pound number one in the world. Would you agree 

Carl Froch: You can’t really argue with it. Pound for pound is subjective. You’ve got Inoue and you’ve got Bivol. Are you gonna put Usyk up there? He’s up there with the top three or four and obviously he’s beaten Canelo and you say his past his best, Canelo’s finished. And what’s his other best win? Ricky Burns and Errol Spence. And you can always pull them apart. That’s why it’s subjective. If somebody says, Terrence Crawford at the minute is the best in the world, pound for pound number one, you’d say, all right, sweet. I’m not gonna argue. You can make a case for all of the others, of course. But no, he’s definitely up in the top three after that performance.

Q: Did you watch the Undercard? (Martinez Vs Mbilli)

Carl Froch: I got there quite late. There wasn’t much to scream about. There was one that I’d just missed. That was the one I got there just after it’d finished. And then the rest of it was a bit dull. And I thought, I’ve missed the best fight in the undercard. We were stuck in traffic. Unbelievable. It took us an hour and a half to get there. Four miles away. I might as well have walked. I’ve done loads of walking all week. I’ve got blisters on my feet. I’m wearing new shoes all week. I’ve got a couple of pairs of new shoes. Android Homme were nice enough to send me some shoes and you know when they’re new, you’ve gotta wear ’em in and you’ve gotta wear them socks that make you look fashionable where you can’t see ’em and all the edges of your ankles are chaffing. So we got there, we watched the fight and watched the main event. That’s what was important. 

Q: Over the weekend we had Lewis Crocker and Paddy Donovan. 

Carl Froch: The first one was disqualified wasn’t it?  And then he won the rematch. He hit him after the bell. What’s he now, the IBF Weight Champ? I mean. Potentially a good career.

Q: Do you think the commentary can be a bit biased?

Carl Froch: Yeah, sometimes they can have one eye and who they think they’re gonna win and then they dig their heels in and they double down on it. It’s just opinions isn’t it? Fights are scored based on what you like. So if you’re like a fighter, someone who’s going forward putting the pressure off, even if they’re getting counterpoints and they’ll land the odd shot, you might think he’s won the round. But if you like boxing and the art of pugilism and you’ve got someone on the back foot, demonstrating the sweet science, you’ll be scoring it for him. And boxing, it’s a difficult sport to score and that’s why there’s always arguments around scoring. But the right man won. And the same with the Canelo Crawford fight, ’cause it was quite close on the cards. It’s 1 15, 1 13. It was never that close. But that’s boxing. As long as the right man wins, then we’re happy.

Q: Former UFC star Molly McCann, she made a boxing debut, six round stoppage. Do you reckon there’s a future for Molly McCannon? 

Carl Froch: Potentially. But as a UFC fighter and not having the experience at boxing honey, it’s gonna be difficult. And there’s not many that come from UFC that transcend into boxing very well. Even the top UFC fighters don’t really make good professional boxers, so I doubt it, especially at 35. But it’s wide open and there’s not many. There’s not many female boxers at the top of the game. But if you look at a world champion in her weight division, she’s probably gonna struggle. 

Q: Have you heard from Darren Till? 

Carl Froch: No. Nothing at all. I had a chat with Call Island after the fight, and then a gentleman from DAZN. I suppose this fight’s down to me if I want it. I’ve got no interest in fighting again, but I’d look at it. If it makes money, it makes sense, as I say. If there’s an opportunity to get in there and make some money in a fight that I think’s gonna be quite an easy fight. Maybe it’s not an easy fight. Maybe Darren Till would give me a test. Because I’m 48 years old. But one thing for sure in my prime, even past my prime at the end of my career, 35, it would have  lasted a minute. At 36 years old, it’d be a mismatch, but no one would be interested. The fact that I’ve been retired for 11 years levels his fight up a little bit. But Darren talks a lot sh*t. Wow. He’s a proper gobsh*te. 

Q: Did you see Till’s tweets at the weekend? Surely you want to knock him out in front of the whole world?

Carl Froch: He’s trying to build the fight ’cause he wants paying. He’s had three fights as a boxer but not a professional boxer ’cause he’s fought ex-UFC fighters. So he is still yet to get in the ring with a professional boxer. I dare say sparring with boxers, pro boxers. But you’ll get a real bad shock. An uncomfortable shock if he jumps in with a professional fight. He was on about fighting Tommy Fury. I mean, no disrespect to Tommy Fury, but that’s probably his level. I think Tommy might even beat him. I don’t really rate Tommy. He is not an active boxer. He struggled with Jake Paul, got the win. He beat that useless clown Fake Paul.

Q: He’s also been calling out Andrew Tate on Twitter. How do you think that would go for?

Carl Froch: I’ve never seen Andrew Tate fight. I’ve seen a few clips of him, four time kickboxing champ, so maybe, but I’ve never seen him box. But I can’t see Tate jumping in with him. I can’t see him breaking his flow, his top G flow. He speaks really well to it. He’s obviously very intelligent and he makes a lot of money doing what he’s doing. I don’t think he can come to Britain now. If he comes to England, he’ll probably get arrested. But I don’t think he’d give Darren till the time of day, to be honest. I don’t see why he would. 

There’s nothing in it. Why would you let somebody give somebody the chance or the opportunity to punch you in the face? Because that’s what you’re saying. Saying you can punch him in the face or you can at least try. Legitimately, legally try when you accept the fight. 

That’s the argument for me. Why would I get in there with Darren till? What has he ever done or achieved to warrant getting in with a hall of famer, a world champion, someone who’s a legend in the game. Why would I give him the opportunity to punch him in the face? I think it’s easy money, and if the money’s enough, then I’d consider it.

Q: Have you had any offers or anything?

Carl Froch: I have. I’ve had a couple of fruity offers. 

Q: And have you thought about it?

Carl Froch: I’ve thought about them, yeah. And since him making a show of himself just talking absolute sh*te at ringside that night when I was sitting there eating my apple and just laughing at him. I’ve started hitting the bag and started having a workout and started running a little bit just to see how I feel. And I feel f**king great. So I’ve had a good rest, a good 11 year rest. Still got a sharp jab. There’s no aches and pains. No injuries. So who knows mate. We’ll see what mood I’m in, won’t we? 

Q: Chris Eubank Jr and Conor Benn had a press conference ahead of their rematch in November on Wednesday. Eddie Hearn was about to say a few words about Ricky Hatton, but was interrupted by Eubank Jr. What do you make of his behaviour? He also called Rob Smith a scum bag too..

Carl Froch: Well I think Chris has got his reasons for being annoyed with Eddie Hearn and the British Boxing Board of Control, because he’s been fined quite a lot. Got fined for not making the weight and I know he’s supposed to make the weight, but I think it was half a million quid and then I think the Board of Control was on his back for whatever reason. But the Board of Control does a fantastic job and they’re there for the safety of the fighter. And I personally know Robert Smith and he does a great job. So for him to slag off Robert Smith, I think that’s a mistake and one that he’ll probably regret. But he’s pissed off here because he has had to pay a few fines and he was questioning, where does this money go? 

But I haven’t got a problem with him calling out Eddie Hearn. Eddie Hearn should sit there and keep his mouth shut. I don’t think he should be speaking. And I know he tried to say something about Ricky Hatton, but in terms of that press conference and in that setting, it’s irrelevant because they’re talking about the fight. They’re there to promote the Eubank vs Benn rematch. So regardless of what Eddie Hearn’s got to say, if Chris Eubank Jr has stated from the start that he didn’t want to hear Eddie’s voice, then it’s fair enough. He owns more of the show than Eddie does. Eddie has no real reason to be there. He is not promoting the show, so Eubank doesn’t want to hear his voice. I don’t even know why Eddie turned up.

He turned up and just made a mug of himself. He shouldn’t have gone. He gave Chris Eubank Jr an opportunity to just mug him off again. Eddie has got a great whopping ego so he probably likes the limelight but it doesn’t do him any favors when he’s just getting slagged off and then he gets called out on certain things. I don’t know if anything that Eubank has said is liable because if it is then Eddie will probably try and sue him because he likes to chuck that little suing threat around a little bit lately I’ve noticed. So we’ll see. 

Q: Who do you think will come out on top in the rematch then? 

Carl Froch: The stipulations are all the same as the first fight and Eubank is getting older and if he’s struggling at the weight, like he did the first one, has he got another 12 round performance in him? Because Chris nicked the fight in the last two or three rounds and it was close early on. He was winning, and the right man won, but the last two rounds, especially round 11, round 12, Chris really did just bite down and dig in deep and throw the punches and that’s what got him over the line. Can he do that again? If he can do that again, he’ll win again. If he hasn’t got the engine to do that at 37 years old or 38 years old, whatever he is to go again, because when you have a fight that ‘s that hard, you don’t benefit from it. You learn a bit from it, but you don’t get physically any better. It just tires you out. He took a lot of punishment. He was wobbled one or two times, but he bit down on his gum shield and got the job done. So fair play to him. I think Conor Benn will come with a different game plan. He’ll slow it all down a little bit, not be so anxious and so eager to get involved. But that will allow Eubank to keep some petrol in his tank and still have the energy to finish strong. So maybe Conor needs to put pressure on him. He just needs to be a bit more educated, instead of just going in all guns blazing and walking into shots and having a tear up and coming off second best like he did a lot of the times. I know he caught Eubank, so it’s a difficult one. If he takes his time, Eubank will do the 12 rounds and finish strong again. Because Eubank works well in bursts. He’s able to take a couple of deep breaths and then throw 30 punches and keep the pressure on. I’ve sparred lots of rounds with him and he’s technically quite good up close. He gets his shots off and he rolls his head in. And he punches away and because of the weight advantage and the natural size advantage, I think that really helps him in there. Conor Benn’s only a welterweight and he’s up at middleweight. So he is out of his division. But Eubank’s getting old. 

I’m not that excited about it. The first fight’s been done. All the beef in the buildup. Smashed him around the head of an egg. He failed his drug test. The whole thing is done. It’s done.

There was a great fight and there was a right winner. Why do we want to see it again? More money isn’t it, that’s all it is! I don’t want to play it down in any way. But I’m not mega excited about the fight. But I wasn’t mega excited about the first one. I’m not mega excited about the rematch because we’ve seen it now. Eubank has beat Benn. That’s the legacy. That’s the name. It’s what happened years ago and it’s happened again. Both of the kids both stand to earn a lot of money, fair play to them. It’s not a fight for the boxing fan though, it’s for the crossover fan. 

Q: What do you think to the Jake Paul vs Gervonta Davis fight, the night before Eubank Jr vs Benn 2? 

Carl Froch: I don’t think anything to it really. I don’t understand what Gervonta Davis is doing as a top fighter towards the end of his career. I think if Davis wanted to, he wouldn’t get hit with a shot. If Davis wants to get in that ring and not get hit with a shot, smaller, lighter, more nimble. Faster and he’s got natural boxing abilities. He is a great fighter. Like one of the best. He’s an unbelievable talent. There’s no way Jake Paul can lay a glove on him. The size won’t matter, he’s slower. So the size will only work if he’s up close, lean on him and tires him out. Jake Paul is not a boxer. He’s a performing clown. He’s f**king useless. He can’t fight. He literally cannot fight. He’s absolutely f**king crap. So when he is in there against Gervonta Davis, Davis can just play with him. Like cat and mouse, just hit him with a jab. Move, keep out of the way. Just dominate him. But it depends if anything is agreed beforehand. It’s an exhibition. What’s the rules of the exhibition? Do we get told the rules of the exhibition? So we don’t know what’s gonna happen. But for me it’s a mismatch. It’s not a fight. I’m not interested. I wouldn’t watch it if it was in my back garden as Ricky Hatton would say, I’d draw my curtains if it was in my back garden.

Q: Moses Itauma, continuing to make waves. Do you think Frank Warren’s protecting him a bit too much and trying to keep his own beaten streak and not looking for bigger fighters?

Carl Froch: Itauma is only 20 years old. What options has he got to fight? Is he gonna jump in there Usyk straight away? Do you know what I mean? Would he risk jumping in there with Daniel Dubois? But he might beat Dubois, because Dubois has been done a couple of times now hasn’t he. But at his age, he doesn’t really need to go for it just yet. You could have said that about Mike Tyson. And then he won the world title, youngest ever to do it, and then dominated for quite a few years, before James “Buster” Douglas did him. So what do you do with Itauma? If you’re managing him and you’re looking after him and you’re doing it correctly, then you just hold back a little bit. Just let him fight the next in line.

Let him have a look at what opens up. Maybe a Joe Parker fight is a good fight to make. I’m looking forward to his fight with Fabio Wardley it’s a big one. He could fight the winner or the loser of that. I expect Parker to do the business against Wardley. Just that natural boxing ability..Joseph Parker deserves his shot at Usyk. He deserves a payday and that would be nice for him. But for Itauma, I’d just take my time with him. It’s still gonna open up the landscape. Boxing’s changing massively.  I think AJ’s finished and Tyson Fury’s done. This is like a change of the guard now, so Itauma can dominate and be very good for another five, six, seven years. 

Q: AJ calling out Tyson Fury as well, said he wants to smash Fury’s head in. Do you think they will fight? 

Carl Froch: I’ll tell you something, he won’t be smashing his head in. And I don’t think Tyson Fury would come out of retirement, to be honest. He could do it if there’s massive money involved, which there probably will be. But I can only see one winner in that fight and that’s Tyson Fury. But Tyson’s been out for a while now, he goes heavy in between fights, so if he puts on too much weight and then he struggles to get it off and AJ’s in the gym, then who knows? But am I bothered about that fight? Do I really want to see AJ vs Fury? 

I’ve been a boxing fan since I was a kid and when you watch Marvin Hagler vs Thiomas Hearns, even though I was only a kid when they were fighting, they were for world titles. And then when you come through and you watch Prince Naseem Hamed fighting Kevin Kelley Tom Johnson and Steve Robinson, fighting for titles and then he steps up and he loses to Marco Barrera and you think, okay, Barrera is a quality fighter. Barrera vs Morales, their trilogy was unbelievable on that sort of level. And then on from that, myself, fighting for world titles, David Haye, fighting for world titles at light heavyweight and then stepping up to heavyweight, Tony Bellew, Kell Brooke Sean Porter Amir Khan, going through a daring to be great, getting knocked out a couple of times, but still fighting for world titles. These fights all used to mean something. Now some of these big fights don’t mean f*ck all. You’ve got Benn and Eubank fighting for nothing. Neither of them have a British title between them. And it’s a massive fight that the public’s interested in because of the name. That’s why I said we’ve already seen it once. Do I wanna see it again? NO. 

But going back to Fury and AJ, what’s it for? There’s no world titles on the line. They’re both past the best. AJ was f**king break dancing on his head in his last fight. He’s done. Dubois f**king ironed him out. And Fury got done twice by Usyk and he is bitching and moaning about how he’s been robbed and he wants another bite of the cherry, it’s pathetic. And for these two to now fight just to make a few quid, it’s graveyard money isn’t it. They’ve already made a fortune. And we’re gonna buy into it. I certainly won’t buy into it. I’ve got no interest in it. I’ll watch the highlights, that’s about it. I won’t be watching that fight live. I’m just not arsed! It doesn’t mean anything. I would have watched it five years ago if there was a title on the line or if they were both unbeaten. But now they’ve both been battered. There’s no world titles on the line. What are they fighting for? For a bit of money. Am I gonna subscribe to that? Am I gonna get involved? Am I gonna donate to them? No. So if they fight, they fight, but I’m not interested. 

Q: There’s growing talk of boxing moving towards a more centralized approach we see in UFC with just one promoter. Do you think that would solve problems in the sport, or kill it? 

Carl Froch: It’s difficult to say. It’d be nice to see the best in every weight division. And the best fighting the best. So you’ve got one champion per division. And then you’ve got your challengers for each weight and it works for the UFC, but the fact is that the guys don’t get paid enough money or they say they don’t get paid their share until they get to the top. And even then, a lot of it’s sponsored. Because Conor McGregor made a fortune. A lot was made outside the ring or did they do a partnership deal with Dana? I’m not sure. So it is something that could catch on, but it would take a lot of years for that format to work. You are always gonna have the top of each division, always wanting to get the front of the line with a share of the money, and make the big TV money and the pay-per-view. The big fighters make the big money and the big names that draw the crowds make the top money. Canelo Alvarez made 150 million quid the other day. I mean that’s where these fighters want to get, but that’s Saudi money. That’s a bit different. Because that model is kind of a losing model as a business plan. It’s not plausible. It’s the worst business plan you’ve ever seen. The guys putting on the show are losing £100million. Who’s gonna work that? Frank Warren won’t want to lose money, neither will Eddie Hearn. No promoter is out there to lose money,  they’re in a business, they want to make money. So will that league style league format work? Eventually because that would probably be the only way these fighters can get any money and get paid. 

Q: Do you think Turki will be the man to do it? 

Carl Froch: Potentially, yeah. Him and Dana White, they’ve got plans haven’t they, to take over boxing. To do the league, it’ll just take ages. The latest generation of boxers will have to finish and retire. So when all the top champs at the minute have all finished and then the new league comes in and they’re all fighting each other, then it’s the next generation of boxing. And that model could catch on and could work, or it could be the only option for the fights to make money. But for now, you’re not gonna get any of the top fighters signing into a league. But things always change. Things evolve. The landscape of boxing changes, but it’s a format that’s worked for many years. I don’t think putting it as a league now is gonna work overnight. It’s just going to take time.